Originally posted by Coo Coo Pigeon:Hmm, if you find yourself really in a pickle there: Still, it is nice to have some non-trivial gameplay again, if for only a short time. I knew the devs didn't playtest all variants, but it also seems that they didn't even theory idle them out. I have enough favor to fully level my champs up within the first few sets of areas and I have all available champs that are also all highly geared up. Getting lucky isn't a very respected game design choice in idle games that like to pretend they are based on math.įrom what I can tell, they are all able to be finished, but not "practically" so. The "solution" is exactly to restart until you have a favorable outcome, kind of crappy, but that is the solution. Problem will be solved without thinking about it. One of CNE officials said (wrote) that they did not test all available variants (seeing that patrons did not work at all in the beginning and first supposed-to-be-fixes did not fix the problem, one might ask what actually was tested in regards to patron system), so it's not said that all of them have to be completable under current conditions and I don't think there are plans to change that in any way. Other solution is gem/patron currency farming, to get better gear. I know nothing more though.Īnd yes, future champs and level cap increases are solutions for those players, who currently have problems completing patron variants. However I do remembe people saying at the time of release of the original variant, that there is indeed some kind of rule for this randomness in this variant, so you might want to reset to start with particular conditions and end up with best possible set of champs. Originally posted by Soul Reaver:I don't know what you mean about finding out a solution for NStP. One of CNE officials said (wrote) that they did not test all available variants (seeing that patrons did not work correctly in the beginning and first supposed-to-be-fixes did not fix the problem, one might ask what actually was tested in regards to patron system), so it's not said that all of them have to be completable under current conditions and I don't think there are plans to change that in any way. I don't know what you mean about finding out a solution for NStP. Luckily, my last 2 sets of champions were kinda rich, with last set giving me full formation for the first time in whole run (actually I had 11 slots available, so I event had a choice :D) + I had my best tanker (i.e. I did the Mirt version and checked that if you're unlucky, you will be left with single champion for whole 25 areas. Only actually kind of broken variant so far is Never Split The Party, because it first unlocks random champion in each bench slot, then blocks those that don't belong to selected patron. That's how most (but not all, as you can read below) of "random" stuff works in variant restrictions As you can see nothing happens on beating a200 and a300Īlso as you can probably tell for yourself - there is nothing random in order in which slots are blocked when )
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